I put these on a 2017 Ford Explorer Limited and a 2017 Subaru Forester. Much better than the previous tires. The Explorer had Michelin Defenders and those were loud tires from the start and the snow/wet traction was lacking. 5 days with the new Pirellis during a Michigan winter, and the traction is excellent on both wet, snow, and dry roads. These are much quieter from the start unlike the Michelins. Also, the Michelins tended to get caught in the groove wander on highways causing my car to sway, the Pirellis do not. I wish I had bough these sooner. The Forester had a weird brand of tires on when it was bought used and anything is better than those, so I can't speak to that model comparison.